Boom! Headshot!

Requiel

PVC Love God
For those of you who are interested in Eve politics here's a quick rundown on the current drama.

Goons held two regions of space Delve and Querious. These are generally considered to be the best space in the game due to some developer shenanigans back from when they were held by the Band of Brothers alliance.

Band of Brothers (BoB) were humanely euthanised by Goons as part of the invasion that took the regions from them, they then scuttled off to Empire to do faction warfare for a bit under the name Reikoku. Recently they reformed again as IT alliance and invaded Fountain which neighbours Delve to the north, displacing on/off Goon allies Pandemic Legion. They made it pretty clear though that their ultimate ambition was to retake Delve and Querious.

Meanwhile to the East, the mostly Russian alliance Against All Authorities (-A-) had previously been paid by a Russian aluminium tycoon to wardec Goons and had been shooting at us without really putting us under pressure.

A few weeks ago, as Pandemic Legion were losing their space to IT, -A- invaded the key gateway system of 49-. This system is kind of Eve's Afghanistan, it's a route to a lot of places and empires go there to die. It was the last IT bastion when we took the regions from them and saw some exceptionally fierce fighting throughout that war. The Russian invasion, even with help from IT wasn't going well. We were able to easily fend off their attempts to take the system and it looked as though Delve was pretty secure. The new sov system strongly favours the defender and especially so if the defender is in a different timezone to the attackers. IT are a mostly European alliance while Goons are mostly US based so all we had to do was to make sure that anything vital was timed to come out in US prime and there was little that -A- or IT could do about it.

Then someone forgot to press a button. Goonswarm, being a very large alliance with a lot of overhead is pretty compartmentalised. Responsibilities and permissions are locked down to limit the damage a rogue director could do. Also the corporation management and wallet UIs aren't hugely clear. Directors get spammed by hundreds of notifications every day for everything - membership applications, sovereignty updates, wardecs, tower fuel notifications and a whole lot more. It turns out that if there isn't enough money to pay for your sov, the system sends one message to inform you of this rather than one message per system. That message got lost amidst a sea of other notifications and we found out the hard way that someone had forgotten to move money into the correct wallet division to pay our sov bills.

Boom! Headshot!

30 systems dropped sov immediately late at night. 15 of those were critical station systems. We subsequently saved a few stations but IT were able to capitalise on the fact that most Goons were in bed or at work to anchor their own TCUs and claim sov in vital systems. These included our main market hub, our main capital staging station and a few other staging systems. It also left our jump bridge network that allowed us to quickly and safely redeploy around our space in tatters. What used to be a four jump trip going via fully armed POSs became a 15 jump trip using dangerous stargates.

Now we're pulling out and moving to Syndicate to help our beleaguered allies in the North.
 

Gottaa

Full Member
Is the upshot of this that IT get there old space back due to a clerical error rather than anything else ? if so it's abit of a shame
 

Gottaa

Full Member
perhaps a mix of funny and shame, could have been huge battles, lots of stuff destroyed, power vacuum's, etc, etc, instead it's a clerical error and a tactical withdrawal (that's how I read it, could be wrong)
 

Chick

Cartwheel RIGHT
It's dualism in it's finest.
Having the space because of an enforced clerical error (The spy that destroyed sov in it all) then losing it because of the same is funny.

to the popcorn machine!!

ps. lol @ going back to syndicate. In T1 ships i hope :p This should create some fun fighting i guess?
 

Zeus

Full Member
i do hope theres plenty of conspiracy forums on the eve boards, about how ccp made them miss paying the bills in time in order to benefit their old freinds in BoB/IT :p
 

Zed

Rogue Chimp
And in 6 mo to a year itll start again with Goon in the ascendancy. Itll always be like this I suspect :)
 

Requiel

PVC Love God
Obviously Not :grin:

To be fair he didn't so much 'go rogue' as 'go on holiday'.

Generally Goons are divided into old bitter vets who think it's hilarious and newer guys who were looking forward to a nice war with IT that suddenly isn't going to happen.

Before this went down, the lines were drawn for what was looking like a pretty fun war, we were outnumbered but the sov mechanics favour defenders and it wasn't likely we'd lose anything valuable to hostile action. -A- would get bored after a while as they prove over and over again - in fact they'd already redeployed to rebuild their morale by pushing around CVA for a bit because they weren't enjoying the meatgrinder warfare that Goons were giving them.

Once we lost those systems though fighting back became practically impossible. Most of our capital fleet was locked inside of those stations, we have no central market hub (vital to a sustained war effort) and our main sub-capital caches were occupied. We'd have been bringing ships we couldn't afford to lose into hellcamped systems in the face of the entire IT and -A- capital fleets at times of their choosing. Leaving in reasonably good order and regrouping is the best choice despite how it might look to the average CAOD poster.
 

Zed

Rogue Chimp
regrouping is probably a wise strategy given the alternative outcome. Especially if you can do it without heavy loss. Then you just pick em off.

Can you hit them elsewhere whilst preparing to launch a frontal assault again?
 

Requiel

PVC Love God
regrouping is probably a wise strategy given the alternative outcome. Especially if you can do it without heavy loss. Then you just pick em off.

Can you hit them elsewhere whilst preparing to launch a frontal assault again?

We'll probably fight in the North for a bit to kill Tri Mk.whatever and help our friends while we carve out some new space for ourselves. A lot of that will depend on alliance diplomacy with the NC obviously, but they're up against it at the moment so I doubt that they'll be unhappy about trading a region or so for 5000 local blues.
 
I want pureblind. Small to medium size region but holly shit its rich for alliance level income and close to jita
 
And now to top off the best week ever in EVE, the CEO went fuck goons, kicked all corps from the alliance and cashed out �20,000 + in ISK. Another day in the life of goons. God i love this alliance.
 

Darakor

Full Member
Youch. Does that mean Goonswarm is dead? With that kind of resource loss, it may be severely crippled at the very least.

I have no idea how much ingame cash and resources that is, but 60K pounds is a lot of money. I guess with that amount of money, it is no surprise the CEO was tempted. I assume he better not show his head anywhere in Eve anymore, though, huh?

I just had a funky idea, though. If BoB is quick enough to grab the Goonswarm ticker, they can play as Goonswarm while GS can play as BoB... ;)
 

Chick

Cartwheel RIGHT
NAh the goons are safe. they have claimed for years that "internet spaceships are srs bzns" and "they are terrible" and "this is hilarious" so they lose no e-honour from this, and can instead claim it's hilarious :)
 
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