'a proportion of home-based players'
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Agravaine
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Do they actually want to limit it by nationality or by products of your academy?
Last I heard it was linked to the academy and even Cesc qualifies as home grown on that basis.
Out of interest, why do you think it's a good move?
If you're good enough, you get in the team no matter your nationality. If teams are forced to play English players as opposed to simply wanting to, surely the price of English players will rise even further. The teams that don't have �10m-�30m to spend on good English players will be forced to play mediocre ones which will impact the league and still wont benefit the national team.
All I can see happening is the best English players going to the top clubs (oh wait, that already happens), mediocre English players perhaps getting more chance in the "lesser" teams and still not getting a game for England. Yes you might improve some players by giving them more opportunity to play regular Premiership football with better players. But, if they don't have the talent to be world class, they won't help England much and, if they do, surely they would have gotten in a Premiership side anyway?
It's no shock Sir is quite happy with this idea as he's happy to pay silly money for English players and it will help to further distance Manure from the majority of other clubs. Not sure why he thinks we'd be so upset though. Our academy is producing English players with talent and we make more money than Manure (so we can afford to ninja the best players from other teams too) whilst his reserves can't even beat Coventry in the Carling Cup
Last I heard it was linked to the academy and even Cesc qualifies as home grown on that basis.
Out of interest, why do you think it's a good move?
If you're good enough, you get in the team no matter your nationality. If teams are forced to play English players as opposed to simply wanting to, surely the price of English players will rise even further. The teams that don't have �10m-�30m to spend on good English players will be forced to play mediocre ones which will impact the league and still wont benefit the national team.
All I can see happening is the best English players going to the top clubs (oh wait, that already happens), mediocre English players perhaps getting more chance in the "lesser" teams and still not getting a game for England. Yes you might improve some players by giving them more opportunity to play regular Premiership football with better players. But, if they don't have the talent to be world class, they won't help England much and, if they do, surely they would have gotten in a Premiership side anyway?
It's no shock Sir is quite happy with this idea as he's happy to pay silly money for English players and it will help to further distance Manure from the majority of other clubs. Not sure why he thinks we'd be so upset though. Our academy is producing English players with talent and we make more money than Manure (so we can afford to ninja the best players from other teams too) whilst his reserves can't even beat Coventry in the Carling Cup
Janie
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It would force teams to look a football at grass roots level. Watching a team of 11 foreigners, managered by another foreign who run by foreign investment isn't really an ideal setup for the English Prem in my opinion.
Or course Arsenal make the most money. The spend less than the other big clubs on signing and wages and ripoff the fans by being the most expensive team to watch.
Or course Arsenal make the most money. The spend less than the other big clubs on signing and wages and ripoff the fans by being the most expensive team to watch.
Agravaine
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Our waiting list for season tickets is around 27,000 I believe, so people obviously think they're getting their moneys worth
The point I was making is that we can afford to go out and pay silly money for English players if the rules change and still compete with Manure, despite what Sir thinks.
You might be right that it would benefit grass roots football but we already try to bring the best youngsters to the academy and develop them from there. Unfortunately, many of the English (and other) players who seem to come up through the ranks turn out to be odious little weasels or lack the talent to make it into the first team.
I'd imagine the other clubs are trying to get in the best young English kids to develop as well so it's already happening without the cap on foreigners.
The point I was making is that we can afford to go out and pay silly money for English players if the rules change and still compete with Manure, despite what Sir thinks.
You might be right that it would benefit grass roots football but we already try to bring the best youngsters to the academy and develop them from there. Unfortunately, many of the English (and other) players who seem to come up through the ranks turn out to be odious little weasels or lack the talent to make it into the first team.
I'd imagine the other clubs are trying to get in the best young English kids to develop as well so it's already happening without the cap on foreigners.
MarkS
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Go down a local park in the summer Janie, then go check out your local shop parade. The problem has more to do with the little cunts having little interest in sport anymore.
When i were a lad, there would be loads of kids playing football in the summer, 20 a side matches were common place. Now theres a few druggies on the swings and no one playing.
I was also talking to a friend on friday who is still heavily involved in sunday football who said that the league here had dropped from 6 divisions of 20 sides, to 4 divisions of 15 as so many teams had folded due to not being able to field a full side. The older chaps were still up for it, but theres no youngsters coming through wanting to play.
Arsenal, Man Utd, Chelsea and Liverpool arent responsible for the decline in our national side, our so called leaders that have allowed this country to plunge to the shit state its in are. If they stopped pissing our money away on shoreing up the EU, housing and supporting freeloading immigrants, sucking americas balls and sending our lads off to die for people who are more likely to blow them up than thank them when they get home, then maybe they could do something about crime and give the kids something to do rather than get off their tits on low grade narcotics and cheap lager.
...also Ferguson is a red nosed wank monkey.
When i were a lad, there would be loads of kids playing football in the summer, 20 a side matches were common place. Now theres a few druggies on the swings and no one playing.
I was also talking to a friend on friday who is still heavily involved in sunday football who said that the league here had dropped from 6 divisions of 20 sides, to 4 divisions of 15 as so many teams had folded due to not being able to field a full side. The older chaps were still up for it, but theres no youngsters coming through wanting to play.
Arsenal, Man Utd, Chelsea and Liverpool arent responsible for the decline in our national side, our so called leaders that have allowed this country to plunge to the shit state its in are. If they stopped pissing our money away on shoreing up the EU, housing and supporting freeloading immigrants, sucking americas balls and sending our lads off to die for people who are more likely to blow them up than thank them when they get home, then maybe they could do something about crime and give the kids something to do rather than get off their tits on low grade narcotics and cheap lager.
...also Ferguson is a red nosed wank monkey.
Git
Your opinion is worthless....
I agree with Marks, why would anyone want to go play football or sports in a park when there is a 50% chance you might be mugged knifed or even shot, well not so much shot but knifed definately in inner London or even where I live just on the edge, I can imagine the problem is similar elsewhere.
Don't forget parents are just too scared to let their children do what they did, shit I was walking myself home from juniour school when I was 7 with my own key and waiting for my mum and dad to get in from work, and the pace of life has shot up since then.
Don't forget parents are just too scared to let their children do what they did, shit I was walking myself home from juniour school when I was 7 with my own key and waiting for my mum and dad to get in from work, and the pace of life has shot up since then.
MarkS
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There are actually plenty of kids playing football here. But then again I don't think where I live is truely reflective of the rest of the country
5 kids with 13 toes each kicking a rabbits head around does not constitute a game of football young lady
Janie
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Janie
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So you've seen Norwich this season.
Requiel
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At least you can walk around Norwich without a 50% chance you'll get knifed. Not so sure about Leicester as I've not been there in over 15 years (i'm a glory hunter fan
I was stabbed twice when I lived in Leicester. Fucking horrible place.
Janie
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Which is why i'm grateful my parents decided to move to Norfolk when I was young.