Epic........

[Taians]

The Band of Brothers alliance is gone.

- It went to Darius JOHNSON's alt corp:
- The freshly minted Band of Brothers corporation, incidentally, is now joining Goonswarm.
- BNC standings were scrambled for the sake of the coming indignity of any unaware members.
- BoB sovereignty over all controlled space will reset at downtime.
- Goonswarm stole BNC's capital fleet, corporate wallet, and store of PvP ships (Mittani describes: "hundreds.")
- All BoB forums apparently archived by The Mittani.
- BoB IRC: cflux changes topic to 'DO NOT LOG IN CAPITALS NO WE DIDNT DISBAND THE ALLIANCE YOU IDIOTS - WE ARE PETITIONING AS MUCH AS WE CAN GOD DAMN IT'
- BoB members are bumping their own ships out of POSes in the process of evacuating Delve.
- BoB can't post on the CAOD thread about it, since they don't have an alliance ticker.
- SirMolle, who is reportedly in the hospital, probably just received 50 cell phone calls at 4 AM Sweden time telling him that Goons disbanded his alliance.

Most Epic rape ever in a MMO. Unreal the damage that was done.

http://www.scrapheap-challenge.com/viewtopic.php?t=23418

 

[Taians]

I cant stop laughing at all the various threads appearing all over the net on sites. This is so huge

 

[Chick]

lol
wish i wasn't at work and had time to check it all out.

I wonder if they will get it all back.....

 

[Taians]

If they do, CCP will get raped by the player base. It was a legit heist and no via account hacking.

 

[Taians]

After downtime, Delve will turn into the wild west with every corp dropping towers. Theres alrdy shit loads down there reinforcing every BoB tower they can find.

 

[Chick]

Good points. You are trembling with lol and excitement arn't you

The goons sure do take this game seriously, which is ironic....

 

[Flight]

<@LadyScarlet> noooooo
<@LadyScarlet> dice
<@LadyScarlet> is not in the allince
<@LadyScarlet> wtf
<@arcantos> nor is finfl
<@LadyScarlet> omg
<@arcantos> 2009.02.05 01:31
<@arcantos> The war between FinFleet and Abbach Alliance is coming to an end. FinFleet has surrendered to Abbach Alliance. The war will be declared as being over after approximately 24 hours.
<@arcantos> someone did a bubu ..
<@tricky> um
<@Luciender> Um...
<@LadyScarlet> the allince
that's going to be interesting
<@LadyScarlet> dotn exisit anymore ?
<@arcantos> no
<@arcantos> bob is closed
looks like bob closed
<@tricky> FUCK
hahahaha
<@arcantos> Band of Brothers (Closed) from 2007.08.10 to 2009.02.05
someone didn't pay the bill
<@tricky> sov4s are going to die
<@LadyScarlet> call molle !
<@Luciender> .............
it doesn't matter who you call
don't bother waking anyone up
<@tricky> wtf
<@Luciender> ...............
it isn't just sov4, it should be all sov dropping
<@Spathi> all sov will drop now
<@Spathi> petition that.
<@Spathi> like, now
<@LadyScarlet> we need it delt with now
directors, go
or ceos
<@tricky> Standings are going to be fucked up
but if it's an unpaid bill, will they care?
<@tricky> ping your corps
<@tricky> or we will lose shit
<@Luciender> Sort your standings out to every bob corp
<@LadyScarlet> can i pay it from hat ?
<@LadyScarlet> do we know ?
lady, it needs to be recreated
via petition (preferable) or in game (we lose sov and so on)
<@Spathi> just get it petitioned.
-stratics.frws.com#bobsecure- ChanServ invited Blocko into channel #bobsecure.
* Blocko ([email protected]) has joined #bobsecure
* ChanServ sets mode: +o Blocko
<@Blocko> What needs to happen to sort this?
<@LadyScarlet> im yelling at coranor now
wake your brother up ;p
<@LadyScarlet> or get dian ya
<@Luciender> get dian on
<@Luciender> wake him up
<@LadyScarlet> blocko he had to pettion and pay the bill now
<@Blocko> to do what?
<@Blocko> on lousia?
<@LadyScarlet> recreat bob allince
<@LadyScarlet> its gone
<@Spathi> dont recreate, just petition it.. either way we're screwed if the gms dont help
<@Blocko> someones ringing him
<@Blocko> lol
the bob alliance is closed. we don't know why. we need a petition begging for it to be recreated so we don't lose all sov
<@Coranor> petition it
<@Malindah> has anyone petitioned it?
<@Malindah> if nto I will
who needs to petiton? ceos? one ceo?
<@Blocko> hes up
<@Spathi> just everyone do it lol
<@Luciender> i woke him up.
<@Coranor> i see no payable bill on record on one of my director alts
<@Coranor> just someone fucking petition it it doesn't have to be me
who does it have to be? any director
?
any ceo?
surely not just any member
<@LadyScarlet> well i can pettion it but i though it had to be a ceo
<@Coranor> mal go petition it please
<@LadyScarlet> if mal isnt i will then
<@Malindah> i am working on it
<@LadyScarlet> but im not sure how all that allince shit works
<@Luciender> Guys
<@Luciender> set your standings to each corp please
<@Malindah> but we have freighters that justgot bounced.
<@LadyScarlet> ya
<@Malindah> trying to get them safe.
<@arcantos> luci it's not only standings
<@LadyScarlet> fken hell its already on coad
<@arcantos> now we need to share pwds for poses
<@Blocko> Dian is up
<@Coranor> it doesn't matter just fucking sort out standings so people don't get nailed by pos guns
<@Spathi> Check the titans in h-a
<@Spathi> Cos any online...
<@tricky> rkk standings should be sorted
<@Mako> still going to get bounced
<@Coranor> now make sure titans are logged off
<@cflux> get a message out that no titans logs in, they will all be bounced to fuck
<@Dian> *yawns*
<@Luciender> lol
<@Luciender> HAI DIAN
<@Coranor> all of you in all your corps go set standings and make sure titans stay logged off
<@Dian> can somenoe just paste me what I need to put in this petition
<@wizzard66> strange, all our standings seems correct for evol
<@Dian> my brain isn't working
<@wizzard66> hi dian
<@Ciryath> !orders DONT LOG IN CAPITALS TO ANY BOB TOWER | Thursday h-ad, mixed fleet regroup 17:30 and 21:30. Those that logged of close to 3-l, we try to arrange bridge from 3-l before ops
<@cflux> when was the last bill paid?
[04Feb09 20:38|Argentina> the bob alliance is closed. we don't know why. we need a petition begging for it to be recreated so we don't lose all sov
that's what we need, dian
<@cflux> when was the last bill paid?
<@Dian> it was paid
<@Dian> I'd bet money it was paid
<@Dian> fuck knows how I find out though
could someone have closed it on purpose. who has the ability to do that?
<@Dian> and, it wouldn't have reset
<@Dian> until dt anyway
<@Dian> afaik
<@LadyScarlet> i sent corp mail n o titians or caps to log in w/o fc orders first
<@LadyScarlet> everyone prob should do the same
<@Blocko> I blame Thol!
<@LadyScarlet> hey i was scared thol removed us lol
<@Dian> Argentina, I think only the executor
<@Coranor> qd put that on the irc channels or forums not corp mail
<@Dian> of the holding corp
<@cflux> Ok. Who has a fucking director in tin foil, actual director not these bullshit gave access shit, go to bills tab and check if the shit was paid or not.
<@Dian> I do
<@Dian> fuck sake
<@Coranor> chill lads
<@Blocko> cflux,,,, ssshshshshshhhhh
<@LadyScarlet> i have a director in tin foil
<@Coranor> we've done what we can about it so let the petitions go in and just chill
<@cflux> I just need an answer was it paid or not, if it was paid, for sure, someone gurantees his mother that it was fucking paid, I call the batman hothline.
change !orders. it reads like it was done on purpose
no sense adding to the confusion
<@Mako> who is arkannen
<@cflux> and thats heavy duty batman hotmail. but i aint fucking ringing if it was our screwup
<@LadyScarlet> a gm ?
<@Coranor> dian said he was sure it was paid
<@Dian> I am almost certain it was paid
<@Dian> and cflux, there's no record of ANY alliance reg fee
<@cflux> Mako: arkannen? arkanon? hes the internal security guy
<@Dian> ever being paid
<@Dian> in the wakket
<@Dian> and the last one
<@Dian> is listed as the 8th of jan
<@Dian> so no, this should not be happening
<@Dian> and the one before that
<@Dian> is december
<@Dian> exactly a month before
<@Dian> so yeh, no fucking way
<@Mako> who is arkannen
<@Sivona> so it should go down on 8th feb?
* Theo|dinner is now known as Theo
<@LadyScarlet> Mako: arkannen? arkanon? hes the internal security guy
<@Dian> who is gonna sit online
<@Dian> that I can direct a gm to?
<@LadyScarlet> i can be online
<@LadyScarlet> all night
<@Spathi> I can too
<@Malindah> i can be online as well
<@LadyScarlet> till 11 or so
<@DeadAgain> Same for Evol
<@Mako> some with that name took al the wallet from hat
<@DeadAgain> *all night
<@wizzard66> wtf?
<@Mako> and left reson
<@LadyScarlet> huh
<@Mako> the mittani says hi
<@cflux> first one who gets contact of a GM, tell him we need our constellation sovs returned
<@LadyScarlet> omg
<@LadyScarlet> you have got to be shitting
<@wizzard66> Arkannen - Haargoth Agamar
<@Mako> not 20 min
<@Luciender> remove
<@Dian> rut roh
<@Luciender> =/
<@LadyScarlet> but harrgoth is in here
<@Dian> hahaha
<@Dian> and what roles did he have?
<@cflux> Mako: repeat again
we just got played? hats off (not pun intended)
<@Blocko> Secure is comprisimied - Mittani shags goats
<@Dian> cflux
<@Dian> hat.. wallet
<@Mako> look at journal of hat wallet
<@Dian> arkannen took 500m
<@Dian> or so
<@Dian> at 0130
<@Dian> "mittani says hi"
<@cflux> get coranor online, control hat assests now
<@cflux> lockdown the fucking corp, remove all roles from everyone
<@cflux> BNC, lockdown your corps, hes your guys
<@cflux> It looks like we are being fucked royally
<@Blocko> - Mittani shags goats
<@Dian> Luciender
<@Dian> what roles did he have?
<@Dian> Coranor, audit that char plz
<@Dian> see what roles it had
<@Luciender> i dont have access for that mate
<@Luciender> just a fueler alt
<@Ztrain> I'm off work in 8 munutes
<@Coranor> that characters roles are now gone
<@Ztrain> I'll be home have a director character in Hat
<@Ztrain> or at least had.
<@Luciender> Id say remove everyone's mate
<@Dian> ok that char
<@Dian> would not have had roles
<@LadyScarlet> dotn remove miss dixies
<@Dian> it has bnc.e director title
<@LadyScarlet> its me ;P
<@LadyScarlet> took me 2 months to get them back
<@Malindah> I cannot remove roles
<@Ztrain> lol
<@Malindah> trying to get Okuden now
<@Dian> roles gone on that char
<@Spathi> haarg is nova, not eclipse.
<@Spathi> he has 1 char in eclipse and it was pos gunner only
<@LadyScarlet> do we ban him from here yes or no ?
<@LadyScarlet> he sitting in this channel
* You were kicked by Spathi (Bye )
* Attempting to rejoin channel #bobsecure
* Unable to join channel (invite only)

 

[Flight]

http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=990388


It's been confirmed that this wasn't a billing issue, but the rest is still up in the air. Goons are taking credit for a legitimate infiltration, but so far the only Bob response has been that "it wasn't spy or bill related", possibly leaving the door open for an accusation of illegal metagaming (i.e. account hacking)

All the high fives can go in the other thread I just want to know what happened without having to look everywhere.

Edit #1:

Originally by: ElitusIll go and say this.

Previous Bill was Paid on the 6th of Janurary.
Previous bill before that was paid on the 6th of December.

Currently looks like HAT was compromised with an inactive hacked char. Log shows 500 mil was removed from the wallet stating "mittani says hi"

We are investigating



Edit #2-

Originally by: jm24Goons got a director level level spy, and hit perfectly. We robbed BNC blind as well.



Edit #3-

Originally by: Agaue

I will state as a fact;
1) it wasnt a bill/money issue.
2) it wasnt spy related.

Mittani isnt dumb enough to put his hand up and say he is responsible.



Edit #4-

Originally by: Darius JOHNSON

I can confirm that we are responsible. I am dumb enough to put my hand up.

No exploits were used. No accounts were logged into by anyone other than the account owner. In short, it was a pro operation not a BoB operation. Kiss Kiss!



Edit #5-

Originally by: Iraf Thaiberd

Allow me to make this clear:

This was 100% legitimate in-game spying using roles and in-game abilities granted. No hacking. No account trickery. No someone using someone else's account that they shouldn't have. (ALL of which have been used against us in the last two months).

This was old school spy with full director roles in a member corp and executor corp and there it is.



Edit #6-

Originally by: AgaueSo you were the one using Haargoth's account then?

Anyone that believes the mp3 recording where mittani says "oh haargoth doesnt have a mic" isnt very smart. Why does he suddenly not have a mic? because the second the fake Haargoth says anything he will be proven fake by voice records.

We have more evidence that it wasnt the real Haargoth, but was infact someone that hacked his account, but that is in the hands of CCP now.



The identity of Haargoth seems to be in dispute. Is he a real spy or a hacking victim?

 

[Flight]

http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=990381


Originally Posted by The Mittani Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
hello! i am a mitten, a mighty SPACE TYRANT~, i focus my space tyranny on the v. important job of being 1. warm 2. fuzzy

today we destroyed bob

<@Thol> if this goes **** up
<@Thol> last time leading a gang
<@Thol> in a looong time
<@wizzard66> some waitijng in h-a
<@Thol> bye
<@Spathi> bai!
<@Thol> this was the last straw
<@Thol> for me and this alliance

i agree!

the new bob alliance is run by goonwaffe! you can remake another alliance i guess but we took your name and ticker~

oh and all your sov everywhere will drop: hope this helps!

also we took everything bnc had:

thanks for the free capfleet towers and isk



ooh ooh i forgot also we archived your entire director forum and will be publishing it

barros de la jefes more like barros de la 0wned

bai~

 

[Fanforran]

Been listening to eve radio all night, whilst waiting for servers to come up on a game I cant mention

Top fun !

Interview with guy who did the deed and bob spokesman should be available for download by now.

 

[Entropy]

Um. I find reading about Eve news quite interesting because it's so surreal, but I often don't understand what's going on. Can someone explain the above please?!

Cheers!

 

[Fanforran]

Bloke got pissed off , bloke had high lvl alliance controls, bloke uses those controls to knacker the alliance.

 

[Requiel]

Can't stop laughing....

Basically, a top level BoB director defected and dissolved the alliance before he left which means that all of their sovereign space is now free and all of their alliance owned assets belong to Goonfleet.

 

[Flight]

Bloke got pissed off , bloke had high lvl alliance controls, bloke uses those controls to knacker the alliance.

Bloke in question was BoBs Director of Internal Security !!!!

 

[Flight]

Everyone heading to BoB space to claim the best areas in the game, or just pirate it up.

 

[Entropy]

So is all that black space ex Band of Brothers stuff?

 

[Requiel]

So is all that black space ex Band of Brothers stuff?

Apart from the densely packed bit in the middle which is Empire space, yes.

 

[Flight]

From the BoB director forum, way back when Delve originally got turned into Blood Raider truesec:




Quote:
Omir,

Please set the following corps to positive for the Blood Raider faction:

Black Eclipse Corp [BNC.E]
Black Nova Corp [BNC]
Reikoku [RKK]
Evolution [EVOL]
Rough-Necks Inc [RN]

We shall also soon be creating an official alliance, which we would obviously want setting to the same positive, we'll pass that information to you once it is finalised.

Pilots to receive +9.5 standings:
Bubbles
oropendia
Louisa Torres
dimensionZ
CapnMordo
Prime Mover
Fourier
TinyM
Alex Capone

One more is to be forwarded to you shortly. We would also like to request that all current members of the above corps that are currently at negative standings to yourselves have their Blood Raider faction set to neutral. Also, as per our original agreement, please remove your sovereignty claim from outside the two constellations it was agreed you would settle in, particularly the system of NOL-M9.

Regards,

Dianabolic
Quote:
Omir,

We would like you to use your influence within CONCORD to have the corporations "Band of Brothers" and "B.O.B Corp" struck from their register [ooc we believe that both corps are inactive and due for deletion anyway] so that we may register our official Alliance: Band of Brothers [BoB] (please see petition No050703-000172 for details).

In order to facilitate our future plans, we would like 1 Gallente Freighter.

In order to help your followers recoup from their campaign in Bleak Lands we would also like 3 bhaalgorn bpc's.

Expediency is of the essence, we look forward to hearing from you.
Quote:
Hi Kieron,

Welcome back (I assume u, along with most of the staff, have been on a much deserved break).

Below is a copy of the mail I sent to Omir, if you need anything else, just holler

Omir,

Please set the following corps to positive for the Blood Raider faction:

Black Eclipse Corp [BNC.E]
Black Nova Corp [BNC]
Reikoku [RKK]
Evolution [EVOL]
Rough-Necks Inc [RN]

We shall also soon be creating an official alliance, which we would obviously want setting to the same positive, we'll pass that information to you once it is finalised.

Pilots to receive +9.5 standings:
Bubbles
oropendia
Louisa Torres
dimensionZ
CapnMordo
Prime Mover
Fourier
TinyM
Alex Capone

One more is to be forwarded to you shortly. We would also like to request that all current members of the above corps that are currently at negative standings to yourselves have their Blood Raider faction set to neutral. Also, as per our original agreement, please remove your sovereignty claim from outside the two constellations it was agreed you would settle in, particularly the system of NOL-M9.

Regards,

Dianabolic

p.s. Kieron, we never sent the 10th name in.

p.p.s the sovereignty issue is ongoing, we've had numerous petitions closed (the gm's believe it is the same bug as the rest of the game is suffering, whilst it quite obviously (to us and others, anyway, not) - could you suggest to me how we could elevate this matter beyond the gm's we're having to deal with, or is there not a procedure in place for that?

In response to:
Quote:
-----Original Message-----
From: Kieron [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 09 August 2005 17:50
To: Tristan
Subject: RE: Conversation and agreement with Omir Sarakusa, Blood
Raiders move to Delve.


Send me a list of the characters that were supposed to get the standing
change and I'll get it fixed.

kieron




short version -

BoB "Hey, reset our Blood Raider faction, give us a freighter and some blueprints. kthx"

CCP: "Sure, here you go. Enjoy!"

 

[Zeus]

short version -

BoB "Hey, reset our Blood Raider faction, give us a freighter and some blueprints. kthx"

CCP: "Sure, here you go. Enjoy!"

everything we've come to expect from bob and their pet gms, tbh.

 

[Flight]

Good summary from NeoGaf :

Okay, as probably the only active EVE player on NeoGAF lemme break this down:



A Band of Brother's director (highest level of access in corp) for the executor corp (corp in direct control of the alliance; in short, a director of the executor corp is a director for the alliance) became disgruntled with his EVE life in BOB.

He was not a goon spy. He defected to a Goonswarm corporation Igneus Arctorita with one of his alts, Harkani, in search of a more rewarding EVE career. The recruiter, Tamir Lenk, who let him in, however, failed to notice a few problems in his corporation history (corps that would flag him red for membership, that is, corps known to be not friendly to goonswarm) and told to release him from the corp.

When Tamir Lenk told Harkani (the BOB director alt) that he had to go, Harkani came clean and told Tamir that he was in fact a BOB director, and was willing to give them intel.

Of course anyone can say this, and Tamir did several checks to make sure he was telling the truth, but he had to keep it as quiet as possible. Eventually this makes it up the ladder to the Goon's spymaster, The Mittani, with BOB still unaware of what was happening. They schemed for ways to steal from BOB but eventually come up with a plan to completely collapse the alliance in one fell swoop.

Harkani's main, Haargoth Agamar, was the BOB director. He had director roles for Black Nova Corporation (BNC), one of BOB's premier PVP corps, as well as director roles for BOB's executor corp, Tin Foil. Before setting this all in motion, Haargoth stole the entirety of BNC's assets that he could immediately move. He snagged nearly 13 billion liquid ISK, 16 fitting and rigged dreadnaughts, as well as hundreds upon hundreds of battleships and T2 ships from corporate hangar. He took BILLIONS from BNC alone.

However, stealing from BNC was just an insignificant part of the plan that was to unfold. As director of the executor corp of BOB, he had the power to forcibly remove entire corporations from the alliance at will, and that's exactly what he did. Haargoth simultaneously removed all of the corporations from Band of Brothers, as well as removing the roles from the other directors of the executor corp. However, it takes 24 hours for roles to clear, so this wasn't enough alone to stop this plan from happening.

So, in conjunction with removing all of the corporations, they timed the event to happen when the alliance fee was due. In order to hold an alliance, the executor corp is required to pay a 200 million ISK fee every month. After removing all of the corporations and roles from the directors, he cleaned the wallets of the executor corp so the alliance due would pass unpaid.

Once the alliance due passed unpaid, the alliance officially closed. Goons picked up the name, ticker, and executor corp seconds later to prevent it from reopening.

The implications of this seemingly small act are outstandingly enormous. What it really boils down to is that because the alliance no longer exists, ALL of Band of Brother's sovereignty would disappear after downtime. Not only would it take 24 hours for a new alliance to form, (putting it passed downtime and sovereignty removal in the first place), but the executor corporation was already gone.

So, what happens when sovereignty drops? Many key modules important to protecting space require sovereignty. With no sovereignty BOB had no cynojammers, no cynogenerators, no jump bridges, and lost all of the conquerable stations. In addition all of their capital shipyards went offline, as well as all of their POSes.

The loss of the jump bridge network and the loss of cynojammers was the most significant hit. Without cynojammers BOB can no longer prevent enemy capital ships from entering their systems, and without jump bridges they can no longer move between their own POS network independent of star gates.

Also, after downtime, ALL of their POSes (HUNDREDS OF THEM) would come up offline and unanchored. In order to try and save the countless billions in assets contained inside them, they need to haul it out or reanchor and defend the POSes.

Unfortunately for BOB, defense is a rough prospect when 90% of the entire playerbase is coming to pillage your territory, and you have no means with which to restrict the movement of their ships, let alone their capitals.

BOB's best bet, and what they're currently doing, is hedging as many assets as they can, and have been frantically trying to move assets out since the alliance was closed some time ago last night. But again, this is is a rough prospect as they have no jump bridges and are being camped in by countless other alliances.

Because of this, BOB is either going to have countless billions blown up trying to get them out, or they'll pay a modest fee to be given passage. In addition to assets lost in movement, you must consider the assets lost to stations and POSes they were unable to recover before other alliance got to them. Also, they had more than a few super capitals (motherships and titans) which were in the process of being built, and have since been aborted, meaning the super capital shipyards were destroyed, and that's 10's of billions of ISK down the drain as well. Many of their super capitals are also trapped in their systems with no real way out. They can either sit them there cloaked for months on end or simply have them blown up.

Past the direct losses of BOB themselves, countless more will lose ships, capital ships, and POSes in the wars that will rage over the former BOB territory. Many of facilities mining the highend moons, those responsible for putting minerals on the market for item production, have temporarily been taken offline, and likely won't stabilize for weeks, and this will very likely adversely affect the market for ALL players.

This blow is nothing short of staggering, and it would not be surprising to see the ISK toll into the trillions, and translated to real money, tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of assets and manhours lost.

This has been the greatest and most devastating heist ever performed in a video game, and is nothing short of a horror, a hilarity and work of art to witness. Its as close to a Greek tragedy as video gaming is ever going to get.